Follow 336. And Kid Buu never brings out this power even when he's dying. It seems the entire series is entirely good vs evil, like many others, where evil usually has the advantage in raw energy/strength. Majin Buu is a character from the anime series, Dragon Ball Z. So when you consider that SSJ3 Goku and kid Buu have been even, then that means Gohan could easily take kid Buu. However he seems to be unable to harness all of that power without seperating in two, which would create rather interesting battleground with Evil, Kid and Mr.Buu. Anyone who says that he is weaker or that they are equals is just trolling). If Dai Kaioshin were suppressing him, he would lose. You mean Good Buu. That means that Kid Buu must be stronger. Main article: Dragon Ball Z: Shin Budokai - Another RoadAfter Future Super Buu eats Future Babidi for his treachery, he changes form: upon gaining Future Babidi's power, Future Super Buu changes form and achieves his pure form, Future Kid Buu, who begins feeling an intense pain before discharging Future … The power is there, but it's hidden due specific limitations. You have an enemy stronger than Cell that could likely wipe everything out without breaking a sweat, how do you tone that down so that you can drag the series out for a while? Super Buu was forced into that state after the fat Buu was completely removed from his body along with Gohan, Goten, Trunks, and Piccolo. This is the main reason. Actually Fat Buu was slightly more powerful, just less dangerous. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, A subreddit for all things Dragon Ball! I could easily say that he didn't want to beat Super Buu alone or show off in front of Vegeta if you want to play that card. Take away the good in Fat Buu, and I think he could stand toe to toe with Kid Buu. If Fat Buu were to unlock his absolute full power, he would definitely dominate Kid Buu. Tremendous Buu with Gohan will spoil child Buu =) Gohan is the strongest non-fused persona in DBZ. Kirby slashes Buu into the air, and crashes him to the ground. I'm talking about Evil (skinny) Buu, before he absorbed Fat Buu and became Super Buu. He previously fought Kirby in the 40th episode of Death Battle, Kirby VS Majin Buu. The Seahawks intentionally injured Carson Wentz in the 2019-20 NFC Wild Card game. Since there's no increase in power to Evil Buu at any point apart from other absorptions (which were undone anyhow, meaning there was no increase in Evil Buu's power in total), then logically if you add one factor and then remove the exact same factor, what remains on either side should be the same. This is very valid indeed and its not fair to say an otherwise valid point isnt valid just because it hurts your argument. However, I feel that when Buu expelled the Pure Evil Buu, his power had spiked to that near equaling Evil Buu (Super Buu), as he was enraged to a point that he had never been before, and with the established fact that his strength increases in relation to his anger, then it's safe to say that his strength was higher than it had ever been before. In terms of raw power, Super Buu & Fat Buu should be closely rivalled, if not equals. If we are talking Dragon Ball Super here than Frieza is stronger and faster and if he had knowledge of Buu and his powers, and was careful enough, he could win. We can't take him seriously saying he could always have killed Fat Buu and yet not believe him vs. Fat Buu is the name used to refer to this version of Buu during his time as a villain. Fat Buu is the name used to refer to this version of Buu during his time as a villain. Good Buu fights the Evil Buu. Goku was completely unwilling to fight Super Buu and tried to quickly resort to Potara Fusion with both Gohan and Vegeta. Keep in mind Shazam might get absorbed if he's not smart. The difference between kid Buu and Fat Buu wasn't that it was a split between Good Buu and evil Buu. Pure Buu however looks like a far smaller version of Evil Buu, as if the "fat" was removed from within him. In the anime, Goku even mentions that his level of power is incomparable to any other Buu. User Info: Walt87. If they didn't, they where is the struggle? Pure Evil Buu manifested from a cloud of steam expelled from Fat Buu, and his appearance has a very thin, grey look resembling smoke or steam. Kid Buu = the original Buu Fat Buu = Kid Buu + South Kaioshin + Dai Kaioshin Evil Buu = the evil power inside of Fat Buu Mr. Buu = the leftover power of Fat Buu … http://view.thespectrum.net/series/dragon-ball-volume-01.html?ch=Volume+39&page=63, http://view.thespectrum.net/series/dragon-ball-volume-01.html?ch=Volume+39&page=73. Clearly there is some point when buu starts to wear out. Comment deleted by user 4 years ago More than 1 child. Put Majin Buu aside, even Yamcha made Beerus into a laughing stock. It was only the fat Dai Kaioushin that actually weakened Buu, as there's an established decrease in Buu's strength when he's reverting from the "Buff" South Kaioushin Buu to Pure Buu (Kid Buu). All in all is this what the author had in mind i dont think so. Regarding Fat Buu vs Kid Buu, we have Goku's statement that he could have defeated Fat Buu easily if he wanted to, but he struggled against Kid Buu. I've been having a debate on another forum about Kid Buu vs Fat Buu, I'm adament that Kid Buu is stronger but I'd; 1) Like to see what people on this forum think. Keep in mind Shazam might get absorbed if he's not smart. The evil mage Bibidi knew how to summon and control him and eventually used him to slaughter most of the Supreme Kais. Kid Buu was all that power and energy except it was all used for destructive purposes, instead of making friends with World Champion Martial Artists and adopting puppies like Fat Buu. Kid Buu … Absorbing South Kaioushin was no different than absorbing Gohan and the others, a marked increase in strength that is established in the manga. Kid Buu is complete Evil, but Super Buu is not since he has the fat Buu inside him on the other hand having removed the pod of fat buu has made super buu weaker.. and became kid buu ! Kid buu was not offguard with some of Fat Buu's haxes like immortality and cloning but kid buu dominated like 90% of the fight and was clearly presented as significantly stronger then Fat Buu … When Kid Buu first took on the form he was called Innocent Buu, when Buu removed the evil from himself he was called Good Buu, and after being accepted as an Earthling he was named Mr. Buu. While Kid Buu is a straight up incarnation of evil, Fat Buu has absorbed the Kai's, which isn't limited to just their energy. There isn't an argument. Comment deleted by user 4 years ago More than 1 child. Super Buu,Kid Buu and Fat Buu(enraged to the max) vs Ultimate Gohan - May 9, 11 Neoseeker Forums » Special Interest » Dragonball » Super Buu and Kid Buu — Size Comaparison Main article: Dragon Ball Z: Shin Budokai - Another RoadAfter Future Super Buu eats Future Babidi for his treachery, he changes form: upon gaining Future Babidi's power, Future Super Buu changes form and achieves his pure form, Future Kid Buu, who begins feeling an intense pain before discharging Future … Regardless of where anyone stands on the Kid Buu vs. Super Buu debate, it's always obnoxious when people act like a blatant retcon was always the way a story was meant to be interpreted. It was a split between the original Buu and everyone he absorbed. I actually feel that the grey Pure Evil Buu we see is equal in strength to Pure Buu (Kid Buu), as they're both the manifestation of all the evil within Buu. Kid Buu may not think about his actions, but that is exactly what makes him so powerful. While a child-like version of Evil Buu, Kid Buu is completely feral and animalistic, living only to destroy and is called "evil incarnate". If they didn't, they where is the struggle? Buu shoots a laser at Kirby and misses, turning a rock into food. By the way, Kid Buu is wayyy more evil than Super Buu. I wonder how they would react to each other, especially Evil and Kid Buu... Goku did say that he can beat both of them so i have them as equal. Fat Buu was suppressed by Dai Kaio, which meant that he couldn't access his full power(The Evil within). My guess is the story wasn't exactly rushed, but there was probably a high demand for the story to continue and this was just the way it came out. Most video games refer to him as Majin Buu- as he was the first Buu on-screen. When Vegeta removed Fatt Bui from Super Buu's body, Buu flipped shit saying not to remove himself from Buu even more so than when The z warriors were removed. That means that Kid Buu must be stronger. Fat buu 300 Mr buu 200 Kid buu 400 Super buu 160,000 Buff 235,000 Grey buu 23,500 Gotenks 400 Ssj 20,000 Ssj2 40,000 Ssj3 160,000 Now this goes against some statements lol. Although, Super Buu has a better fighting body and has a better fighting mind. Walt87 10 months ago #23. He previously fought Kirby in the 40th episode of Death Battle, Kirby VS Majin Buu. When Buu got blown to pieces from Vegeta, he came back just as strong as before. Regardless of where anyone stands on the Kid Buu vs. Super Buu debate, it's always obnoxious when people act like a blatant retcon was always the way a story was meant to be interpreted. The Kai's were pure, making Buu also more pure and less evil as a whole. If Fat Buu got angry, there is a strong chance that he would have exceeded SSJ3 Goku. SS3 Goku (buu saga) vs Super Buu Dragon Ball - General This is a split board - You can return to the Split List for other boards. When Fat Buu got angry, the Dai Kaioshin's suppression was briefly lifted and Buu could access his full power. A retcon wasn't needed to prove Kid Buu > Super Buu. The Seahawks intentionally injured Carson Wentz in the 2019-20 NFC Wild Card game. So in the end kid buu treats him the same way he did mr buu. level 2. Shazam could probably take down Fat Buu maybe Super Buu and Kid Buu, not sure how it would go against Buuhan. 9 months ago. So in theory, 'Angry Fat Buu' should be just as strong as Super Buu, Angry Fat Buu(accessing his latent power) = 98, Fat Buu(Dai Kaio suppressing his power) = 94. It matters not because the Goku vs Kid Buu fight basically tells the … I've been having a debate on another forum about Kid Buu vs Fat Buu, I'm adament that Kid Buu is stronger but I'd; Well, it depends on which type of Fat Buu's power we're talking about. Some say that Kid buu is the strongest verison of Buu, I disagree (Gohan absorbed Stomps My opinion) But i want to hear what you guys think about it!K It was only the Dai Kaioushin (the fat Kaioushin that served as the leader of the Kaioushin) that actually weakened Buu, by giving him a softer and gentler heart than he had before. It surpressed his power and made him much less skilled. Nope, he's just saying he could defeat Kid Buu. It was his lazy and gentle attitude from absorbing the Dai Kaioushin that tempered his strength, and only when he grew angry did this power really manifest. Anyone who says that he is weaker or that they are equals is just trolling). Super Buu and Fat Buu are technically the same entities and draw their power form the same sources... 'Fat', Good Buu was dominant over the 'evil side'(Buu's latent power). the kid buu vs super buu argument just gets progressively more stupid as time goes on with the leaps in logic you have to make to believe kid buu and goku > buuhan You know it's possible for someone to believe Goku and Kid Buu > Super Buu without believing they are … All other absorptions increased his strength, with just the pure and gentle nature of Dai Kaioushin's being countering Buu's nature. Aye, if Fatty could access all of his power + kais he would be stronger. Cancer free 52 months and counting! Buff Buu to Fat Buu was a massive power drop. While Kid Buu is a straight up incarnation of evil, Fat Buu has absorbed the Kai's, which isn't limited to just their energy. - As for the SSJ3 Goku vs Fat Buu idea. User Info: Walt87. Super Buu then brutally kills Smitty, the second deranged gunman, by turning into liquid and going down his throat, making him expand until he explodes. He's essentially kid buu with a few kai's absorbed. Kid Buu. Was thinking back on the series, and something confused me. Some say that Kid buu is the strongest verison of Buu, I disagree (Gohan absorbed Stomps My opinion) But i want to hear what you guys think about it!K In the end, the good Majin Buu shoots out the Transfiguration Beam, and the Evil Buu blows it back towards him, turning the good Majin Buu into a piece of chocolate. Majin Buu is an ancient force of destruction that has existed since time immemorial, cycling between periods of rampaging and hibernation. However, both Kaioshins weakened Buu. It seems like in the series fat buu is a lot weaker than kid. I believe it's explained that Fat Buu wasn't as powerful because the Kais he absorbed made him childish and unpredictable and able to become fairly docile. Yes, this what I also think. If Satan didnt intervine his power could have hit near SB levels. To beat Buu you to know need 3 main things. Pure Evil Buu + Mr. Buu = Evil Buu - Mr. Buu = Pure Buu. I put them as equal, even though when Goku was toying with Fat Buu he was winning, yet with Kid Buu he was fighting seriously and equal with him. Evil Buu represents the dark side of Majin Buu and possesses the bulk of their power, a result of Majin Buu's anger becoming more than he could resist until he expelled it as Evil Buu. All in all is this what the author had in mind i dont think so. 0. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. SSJ3 Goku could have won against Kid Buu or Fat Buu. Most video games refer to him as Majin Buu- as he was the first Buu on-screen. But yeah ultimately Yamcha had to defeat himself to give Beerus a chance to fight against Majin Buu who is way stronger than him. What we see during the course of his fights prior to expelling the Pure Evil Buu within him is that his strength grows in relation to his anger. I honestly just look at it as a potential unlocked kind of situation. 1. It matters not because the Goku vs Kid Buu fight basically tells the … It seems the entire series is entirely good vs evil, like many others, where evil usually has the advantage in raw energy/strength. discord.gg/dbz, Press J to jump to the feed. Goku vs Kid Buu. The Evil Buu eats the good Majin Buu and gains his power, thus becoming Super Buu. I could easily say that he didn't want to beat Super Buu alone or show off in front of Vegeta if you want to play that card. The one unsafe thing about kid Buu is that he used to be the original Buu, Pure Evil. I think dead Goku defeating fat buu is based on 2 things. His power is equal to Kid Buu + Fat Buu. It seems the entire series is entirely good vs evil, like many others, where evil usually has the advantage in raw energy/strength. Or is it just that he's more timid and a worse fighter? If they didn't, they where is the struggle? @gelato_exotic: nice attempt but there was a reason Gohan was sent to fight Suoer buu not goku. Fat buu 300 Mr buu 200 Kid buu 400 Super buu 160,000 Buff 235,000 Grey buu 23,500 Gotenks 400 Ssj 20,000 Ssj2 40,000 Ssj3 160,000 Now this goes against some statements lol. RELATED: Ranking All Of Goku's Forms So even if 'Fat' could access his latent power indefinitely, his physical shape would still be a determent. There isn't an argument. Reaction videos continue with the second part of the Fat Buu vs. Kid Buu shouldn't have god ki at all since that was part of Kaioshin who's in fat Buu. I think 'Enraged Fat Buu' might be slightly stronger than Kid Buu. Majin Buu is a character from the anime series, Dragon Ball Z. While Kid Buu is a straight up incarnation of evil, Fat Buu has absorbed the Kai's, which isn't limited to just their energy. The other part is that these feats Kid Buu has is realistically like Fat Buu level. He dodges each one and comes close to buu, preparing his serious punch when his leg gets stuck to the ground. Since Fatty can't access to all his power. Fat Buu is the one who fights SSJ3 Goku. I've been having a debate on another forum about Kid Buu vs Fat Buu, I'm adament that Kid Buu is stronger but I'd; 1) Like to see what people on this forum think. When Kid Buu first took on the form he was called Innocent Buu, when Buu removed the evil from himself he was called Good Buu, and after being accepted as an Earthling he was named Mr. Buu. Even if he wasn't stronger, he was certainly more skilled and intelligent. The pure evil Majin Buu is a polar opposite of the "good" Majin Buu in all aspects apart from apparel (except for him having a dark blue cape wh… When Fat Buu fights Kid Buu, Fat Buu doesn't have the rest of Buu inside him. My personal theory is that the Kia's Buu absorbed had just enough control to tame Buu's rage just enough to keep him from going ape shit all the time. The V-Jump magazine that stated Buuhan is on par with SSJ3 Goku lol. Afterwards, he wants a good challenge and remembers being promised that … (Also just a note, Super Buu IS much stronger than Fat Buu. I believe Fat Buu had no evil inside him then, which was the more powerful part of him. Also, IIRC Goku was talking about taking out Fat Buu (who was weaker than Kid Buu, due to being held back by the Kai he absorbed). Buu becomes angry, transforming into Kid Buu. Take it for what it is. Even if that part was surpressed, it probably added to his power. When 'Fat' got angry, his power grew exponentially. Kid Buu fight! Cancer free 52 months and counting! Regarding Fat Buu vs Kid Buu, we have Goku's statement that he could have defeated Fat Buu easily if he wanted to, but he struggled against Kid Buu. Super Buu(Evil + Good)' was mostly unhindered by such restraints, which meant he could access full depths of his power as he was nigh Pure Evil. Kirby swallows a beam, and swallows Buu. Kid buu laid a bit of his gooey body on the ground as a trap for Saitama. So in the end kid buu treats him the same way he did mr buu. Some people will say that he couldn't be, because it was established that Pure Evil Buu was only the majority of Fat Buu's power (with the rest going to Mr. Buu) and the whole comment later of Goku saying he could beat Fat Buu. The only reason they look different is due to the nature of their formation. During his rampages, he absorbed the evil elements of races he eradicated and steadily became more violent and evil. *Steam erupts from kid buu’s head as he shoots a volley of ki energy orbs at Saitama. Shazam could probably take down Fat Buu maybe Super Buu and Kid Buu, not sure how it would go against Buuhan. Some people may think I am crazy, but here wee go... 'In terms of raw power': Super Buu>=Enraged Fat Buu>Kid Buu>Fat Buu>Evil Buu>>Good buu/Mr Buu. While it may not be as good as some of the other fights in the series, Kid Buu vs … This explains why his reaction to the shooting of Mr. Satanwas so despicable, and even appalled the fat Majin Buu. I agree on fat buu, but i cant say the same for kid buu, he was pretty even with him and then he ran outta gas. We can't take him seriously saying he could always have killed Fat Buu and yet not believe him vs. I agree that Super Buu's definitely not as evil as Kid Buu (as he spares Mr. Satan and Bee, which Kid Buu wouldn't … well kid buu > fat buu is a stated fact and SSJ3 goku wolluped fat buu it was one of gokus most one sided fights ever majin buu couldnt even TOUCH him and this was a SSj3 goku who admited to piccolo he held back Uh, what? Furthermore, there's this simple equation we can derive. level 2. You're not saying absolute full power Fat Buu is = Super Buu, right? SS3 Goku (buu saga) vs Super Buu Dragon Ball - General This is a split board - You can return to the Split List for other boards. Buu tries another swing, and slices the tree off its stump. Evil Buu represents the dark side of Majin Buu and possesses the bulk of their power, a result of Majin Buu's anger becoming more than he could resist until he expelled it as Evil Buu. Kid Buu. By numbers Fat Buu was more powerful but Kidd Buu had more rage and force behind his destruction. Dai Kaioshin's gentle and carefree nature conflicted with the evil and chaotic nature of Buu. I actually think Fat Buu at this point had a very low percentage of Buu in himself, while most was in Kid Buu. Like him fighting a Super Saiyan 3 is no different than Goku vs Fat Buu, and him beating the crap out of Vegeta is no different than Fat Buu who just one shotted him. 'Fat' however was unable to access his latent power, unless he got angry. He wasn't winning.They fought equally.Both of them while in playing around-mode couldn't hurt the other one with their attacks. Needing to regenerate from a bunch of small blobs did literally nothing to him. Walt87 10 months ago #23. Shouldn't Majin Buu be a fair bit stronger than Kid buu? But his PL was continually growing. BacktoBasic301. He's a lot like Evil Buu, in that he doesn't really seem to care if he hurts himself in the process of hurting others. This explains why his reaction to the shooting of Mr. Satanwas so despicable, and even appalled the fat Majin Buu. I entertained the idea of Goku teaching the kids fusion before going to fight Buu while Trunks gets the radar. Angry Fat Buu is not too far off from Kid Buu, because Dai-Kaioshin's influence is weakened. But here lies the problem. The pure evil Majin Buu is a polar opposite of the "good" Majin Buu in all aspects apart from apparel (except for him having a dark blue cape whe… Still this makes this Kid Buu a bit weaker than the original Kid Buu. When Kid Buu absorbed the Kai's it made him substantially weaker. Forum Posts. First the original Fat Buu is weaker because absorbing the docile Kai made me basically a child. I agree with this, Fat Buu kinda worked similar to young Gohan, the angrier you made him the more of his power he can tap into, I mean he holds up against Kid Buu for a little bit. That's not a valid reason with the fate of the universe at stake and there being no other viable options. My personal take is that his full strength would be at a level matching that of Super Buu, but in growing angry enough, it conflicts with the pure good nature of the Dai Kaioushin within him. Good/Mr Buu is the one that fights Evil Buu. A retcon wasn't needed to prove Kid Buu > Super Buu. Super buu shitstomps kid buu , the margin is … Probably if goku was dead then it could have been different. However, after absorbing the Grand Supreme Kai, he was transformed into a less evil force by the Kai's influence and was later seal… (Also just a note, Super Buu IS much stronger than Fat Buu. So then he fights Fat Buu as a SSJ3 and instead of looking somewhat even, have Goku honest and truly put the Kibosh on Fat Buu, truly decimating the guy. Fat buu isn't a great fighter and Goku has far higher durability and stamina being dead then alive. Well, I've always suspected the Kai's were actually a weakness when absorbed (and I think this was explained, it's been a while since I've watched the series). So in terms of raw power, enraged Fat Buu should closely rival Super Buu, if not equal him. Here is why. 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