We encourage the upvoting of all relevant content and have a wide definition of what's acceptable. He can dodge all of Gogeta's attacks, and he can one shot him with Hakai. UI only lasted for a few minutes and Gogeta already played around with a Jiren level fighter. Is there anything new from DBS after ToP and the Broly/Gogeta movie? Beerus’ only two feats with the move have been against two characters who are fodder compared to him. [–]Goku4869 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago* (4 children), Manga Beerus knows Ultra Instinct (Omen), and judging how full powered Broly couldn't even touch a casual Whis. Posts with no details or specifications whatsoever. Beerus and Champa showed that just by fighting the universe was going to be destroyed. [–]Georgepaul4k 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago (0 children). 0. I thought there were a couple moments where he was but was stopped. Not an easy match up for Gogeta. @takenstew22: Well it wasn’t pretty evident to Goku that Broly was stronger than Beerus. Do not be insulting or derogatory towards others under any circumstances, and don't resort to ad hominem attacks. He was likely at full power when he fought Champa after the baseball game. There’s no actual evidence that Belmod is stronger than Beerus aside from Whis joking to which Beerus replied it was only an arm wrestle, there’s also no timescale for that and could have been when Beerus was a younger GoD and not as strong. Downvoting will never be allowed on this sub. This isn't his full power and is a showing of feat that jiren nor goku have. re: Ultra Instinct Goku vs Gogeta Blue quote Vegetto Blue The Saikyo Jump editorial office tells readers: "Frankly, the enemy Goku … Ultra Instinct Goku is stronger than SSJB Gogeta Dragon Ball - General ... things even more confusing and complicated by bringing in Merus in a debate that was about the anime version of UI Goku vs Beerus. So I’ll ask again in case I wasn’t being clear last time do you have any feats that suggest that Beerus is capable of erasing the likes of SSB Gogeta? You're allowed to repost but look to your left first. Broly didn’t reach full power until his fight with SSJ Gogeta. [–]SSG_Goten 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (4 children). [–]SSG_Goten 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (2 children). Characters weaker than Jiren and UI Goku like Golden Frieza and SSJBE Vegeta have resisted Hakai. His shirt wouldn't even come off. Any posts that do not promote evidence-based debate. Beerus literally stopped the destruction afterwards. Vegeta overcame toppo who wouldn't be on the same level as belmod to produce a hakai to counter full power vegeta attack but he could have easily erased him multiple times as shown from their match. Send us a message we'd love to help you with your thread. [–]Galaxy_Megatron 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (3 children). To submit a battle, click the Goku vs Superman (or Doom vs Vader) button above. Sure hes stronger than HIS GoD but that doesn't mean Belmod is stronger than Beerus. Jiren was set up as a person who has surpassed the GoD of his own universe and with no real statements or feats as to how that GoD ranks with the rest and could have been the weakest GoD for all we know. And we've seen him do it with extreme ease. Oh hell yes. As for Broly, I feel he'd be "At least Low 2-C, possibly 2-C" rather than definitively 2-C, since he was stomped by Super Saiyan Blue Gogeta, who is debatably in the same tier as Ultra Instinct Goku, and is probably stronger than Beerus. A.Whis is way more powerful than Beerus is. Not an easy match up for Gogeta. 0. we have never seen beerus at full power but according to the manga him and quitela are strongest of the 12, ultra instinct mastered was implied to have surpassed beerus in a shonen jump magazine but that was never fully executed in the actual episode. It was confirmed that Ultra Instinct Goku is stronger than the Gods of Destruction including Beerus. Report rule breaking and leave rule enforcement to the mods. Going by your logic Beerus should be able to erase all of them so that shouldn’t be an issue for him. And that was before his power boost. Limit Breaker Jiren should be handily above Beerus, especially since he was giving Goku a hell of a fight when he mastered a technique Beerus couldn't. re: Ultra Instinct Gogeta vs Whis Whis sleeps on the likes of Broly and Beerus so if he puts any effort into the UI Gogeta fight at all it would be low-diff. Well, at least in the anime but if the power of the two people fighting is comparable, it will still work, as shown when Goku used it on Zamasu (Goku's hakai is inferior to Beerus's one too). © 2020 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. there is not even one statement where is says jiren> beerus, it was later retconned from the V jump magazine. Check out our Official Submission Template for a few suggestions on how you can structure your battle with additional conditions and formatting to make it more interesting. BattleSSB Gogeta vs Beerus (self.whowouldwin). And we've seen him do it with extreme ease. VIEW OLDER REPLIES. Gogeta >>>>> UI Goku > Brolly >=< Jiren >=< Beerus It’s ambiguous between the last 3 however UI is stronger than all 3 but is close. I think team 2 can take it mainly because of Jiren. SSJB Gogeta is only “possibly stronger than Beerus”Tries citing a movie that doesn't have complete 100% compatibility with neither the Anime nor Manga and doesn't even get the fact right; it was Broly, not Gogeta. © 2020 reddit inc. All rights reserved. MUI Goku is beyond Gogeta. I think it’s pretty clear SSB Gogeta is the strongest here, and fusion lasts longer than UI, so I have a hard time seeing Gogeta and Beerus lose. Jiren sacrificed and sacrificed every year, more and more of himself. The following post types and comments have been deemed low-quality by the community and may be removed. By TOP universe busting isn't even that impressive. And has Beerus never used his full power in the anime? A full powered MUI Goku might be an annoyance but Beerus just needs to outlast him. There's also those that claim Goku doesn't know Beerus' full power, although from a manga standpoint that's false as Beerus had no reason to hold back in the God of Destruction battle royale, which Goku witnessed. Team 2 should take it handily. [–]Galaxy_Megatron 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (13 children). This more or less establishes the fact that MUI Goku would be stronger than Beerus. If you see a large number of posts about a character, try someone else. @takenstew22: Considering Vegeta alone is stronger than Toppo. [–]armchair_science 6 points7 points8 points 1 year ago (9 children). Distasteful posts for the sake of being "edgy". unknowingly downplay. Since Goku himself was nowhere near Beerus’ level of power even at his strongest form at the time which was SSBKKX20 and we both saw what happened when that form of Goku clashed with someone who was stated to be at the realm of the gods of destruction needless to say he didn’t fair very well. The anime is quite weird as the shockwaves had bizarre properties were growing stronger and stronger and Old Kai said that everyone, including Beerus and Goku would perish, Beerus also said he needed 100% of his power to stop the shockwaves (he could be lying but keep in mind the bizarre properties of the shockwave). I didn't read the Manga yet so I can't say anything about this. Can he win against all the Jedi that he lost to? Since LSSJ Broly is on Beerus' level, then yeah, SSJB Gogeta would have a win here. Same with Champa. Even in the Broly Movie, Beerus was on Earth, just chillin'. Not to mention, that Beerus would need to go through Whis, Zeno's guards, then the Grand Priest before he'd even have a chance to face off against Zeno. Hakai was never used on frieza or goku it was just a small ammount of GoD energy that was overcome. 1 Attack Dialogues 1.1 Super Attacks 2 Match Dialogues 2.1 Sparking 2.2 Team Dialogues 2.3 Match Reset 2.4 Shenron 3 Miscellaneous Dialogues 3.1 Character Selection 3.2 Intro 3.3 Victory 3.4 Results Screen 4 Navigation An asterisk (*) detonates that character has two different lines. We only have a comparison … use the following search parameters to narrow your results: Find a flair you like, click it, and send the message it brings you to exactly as-is. and if you add beerus here who has million+ years exp, Hakai and also incomplete ultra instinct than team 1 absolute destroys team 2 with mid to low diff, the only problem team 1 will be facing is mui gokus dodge hacks. It MIGHT have even surpassed beerus", the picture doesnt mean anything. And LB Jiren is almost on par with MUI Goku so again, it's basically 2 MUI level characters against Beerus and Gogeta Blue and none of them has MUI. As for Gogeta learning UI during the fight, it's too uncertain to consider. we know broly is possibly stronger than beerus and gogeta absolutely finnesed the hell out of him which also means he's far above the gods including beerus. I was using the manga because of the movie's odd continuity including them both. Even if you were to give a little wiggle room, Jiren got a massive power spike, he'd easily be ahead of Beerus by then. Again, please see the suggested template above for more details. More like he is scared to death of them and is incapable of doing anything to them or at least that’s the case as far as Whis and his dad and Zeno are concerned. He has got serious in the anime a few times (only when fighting with Champa) but we have never even been given a reference or a hint to anywhere near his full power. Present Zamasu ( who was weaker than even SSJ2 Goku.). According to what we know right now, Gogeta would probably stomp. Beerus may be the weakest, but he has the most experience, has partial UI as well, and is arguably the most versatile and has the advantage of destruction energy. [–]KingPWNinater 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (1 child). Also proof that Beerus has a big enough power advantage over SSB Gogeta for Gogeta to be unable to overcome his imperfect ultra instinct through sheer power like Jiren did against MUI Goku. Beerus is a weak link. and how Goku said full power Broly is “maybe” stronger than Beerus. in the V jump magazine it was stated that mastered ultra instinct goku MIGHT have surpassed beerus. re: Ultra Instinct Goku vs Gogeta Blue quote GohanAntifan93 Gogeta Blue > Super Saiyan Full Power Broly > Super Saiyan Gogeta >Mastered Ultra Instinct Goku > Jiren > Ultra Instinct Goku Don't see why Gogeta couldn't/wouldn't learn UI during the fight. That also happened in the anime, his power and Goku's nearly destroyed the universe, so he had to erase it. A.Whis is way more powerful than Beerus is. He wouldn't even need Blue, he could easily do it with SSJG and maybe even pull it off in a hard fought battle in SSJ3, and that's if you say MUI Goku and Beerus are equals. It's really simple. [–]Galaxy_Megatron 13 points14 points15 points 1 year ago (15 children). Though Gogeta probably has more raw power. Beerus is unquantifiable, but it would be a safe bet to assume he's below Jiren. In the anime, the emphasis for Jiren's strength was that he was so powerful that a God of Destruction who was stronger than Beerus could not defeat him. As with posts, the comments are not a place to promote a political or social agenda. Hakai has shown to be negated by being stronger, this was shown by Frieza, Goku and Vegeta. Meaning Broly, and Jiren are non factors in this fight as neither of them have any hax. Not only his he skilled, he has abilities that can destroy both of them with ease. Meruem (Hunter X Hunter) Vs Chainsaw Man (Chainsaw Man). Include detail when posting. Rendered by PID 4451 on r2-app-056d814da82db5a71 at 2020-12-24 01:58:11.803593+00:00 running 6abf2be country code: FR. Is Gogeta strong enough to take out the GoD? Lol at him soloing. Also arguing for Gogeta blue, he clashed with broly broke the boundries of reality and got placed in another dimension until they clashed back in. See more ideas about dragon ball, dragon ball z, gogeta and vegito. 483. unknowingly downplay. He was even ready to erase Goku at one point, without the need to even power up. Not to mention, that Beerus would need to go through Whis, Zeno's guards, then the Grand Priest before he'd even have a chance to face off against Zeno. Goku only became on the same level as Beerus once he got UI. And Just because SSJ Broly couldn’t touch Whis doesn’t mean that Beerus is unteachable. He can dodge all of Gogeta's attacks, and he can one shot him with Hakai. Comments that are a few words and contribute no actual discussion ('lol' or '___ stomps'). Those aren't even impressive though.. SSJG Goku clashing with Beerus was threatening the Universe in the same way. Use of this site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy. Three weakest, they had three gods in that one. "Your Favorite/Least Favorite" character threads are not allowed due to lack of discussion these types of threads generate. Beerus using UI is not canon, the fight of the Gods of Destruction battle royale was not canon, in the anime they never stated whether Beerus can use Ultra Instinct … I have no doubt that a bloodlusted beerus would just start erasing everyone and everything including the universe he's in. It might not have specifically said he was stronger than Beerus, but his reputation and displayed power should say enough. and how Beerus was finessing multiple gods of destruction at once in the manga, I would say it’s fairly obvious. Manga Beerus knows Ultra Instinct (Omen), and judging how full powered Broly couldn't even touch a casual Whis, I'm giving it to Beerus, assuming he can also use UI. Don't downvote. [–]KingPWNinater 6 points7 points8 points 1 year ago (5 children). He was even ready to erase Goku at one point, without the need to even power up. Your post will get automatically removed if it is not flaired. that statement was replaced by beerus was " What an Unbelievable guy", so if beerus is in mui goku level and that goku defeated jiren than its pretty obvious that beerus> jiren. it was referring mui with the text being " Gokus hair and aura starts to glow SILVER. 1 Attack Dialogues 1.1 Super Attacks 1.2 Meteor Attack 2 Match Dialogues 2.1 Sparking 2.2 Team Dialogues 2.3 Match Reset 2.4 Shenron 3 Miscellaneous Dialogues 3.1 Character Selection 3.2 Intro 3.3 Victory 3.4 Defeat 3.5 Results Screen 4 Navigation An asterisk (*) detonates that character has two different lines. Beerus isn't 2-C because he cannot destroy 2 universes alone. Ultra Instinct vs Fusion!? Sure it's not actually happened by anyone other than Zeno, but TOP Goku scales so far above SSG Goku that it would be a little ridiculous to assume he isn't capable of it. Furthermore, If Beerus was truly capable of destroying anything his reaction to Zeno wouldn’t be like this. [–]armchair_science 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (0 children). [–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (1 child). Whis makes another statement in the anime saying that Mastering Ultra Instinct would result in Goku/ Vegeta surpassing Beerus. Assuming unlimited fusion time, I'm going team 1. Super Saiyan Blue Gogeta vs Ultra Instinct Goku. It would be weird and inconsistent if he weren't stronger than Beerus. Jiren before he went Limit Breaker was already stronger than Belmod, who might not be as strong as Beerus, but it still says alot. And has Beerus never used his full power in the anime? Subreddit vs Subreddit posts or other posts looking to get a rise out of other online communities (Tumblr, 4chan, etc, etc). @alextheboss: Destruction energy probably won't really do much. Seal Team Six is tasked with infiltrating Kevin McAllister's compound and killing him. If you do not properly flair your post, or reply incorrectly to a post because you didn't know the difference between 'Battle' and 'Scan-Battle', you agree to forfeit to us your soul in perpetuity or another soul of equal or greater value. Beerus was terrified of a Jiren who wasn’t even showing a hint of his true power does that mean heavily suppressed Jiren > Beerus then? I am pretty sure Universal busting is still impressive on the ToP, if we are going the manga, the feat is only multi galactic level because it was a combined feat by Goku and Beerus that would be a threat to the universe's existence eventually and the timeframe was also never specified. Remember, the mods are humans, and we realize you're human, too. Proof that Beerus is powerful enough to one shot SSB Gogeta with hakai? Within a minute, /u/WWWtron will have assigned you your shiny new flair. Furthermore, Full power SSJ Broly couldn’t even land a single finger on Gogeta once he used SSB. this feet itself is already impressive enough for gogeta soloing this due to him being suppressed is already well above beerus and jiren so him going all out makes it a stomp. @thekappa78: eh, it was not supposed to mean gogeta ssj > Jiren or UI lol. Krillin is a human from Earth and one of the characters … Yeah but the manga at least seems more consistent to debate in many aspects (like the shockwave feat, which is much more clear im the manga than in the anime in my opinion), but debating the anime is fine too. @sup3rn0va: what makes jiren stronger than beerus? If asked, you must provide evidence for your claims or drop the argument. As for MUI Goku and SSB Gogeta I think MUI Goku can take it because of his speed and reaction time which is pretty much the best we've seen in Dragon Ball yet. team 1 wins, ultra instinct mastered only lasts for a minute lol, beerus also has ultra instinct but imperfect. No, never, not even remotely close. Beerus didn't even deny it, he just says it was only an arm wrestling competition. Users may not make more than 5 Posts per day. We saw the diffrence between normal ssj and ssjg in the manga and anime. Joke posts, or posts that are primarily humurous in nature, are not allowed. Beerus should be much stronger than both sidra and toppo. Gogeta is the Metamoran Fusion of Goku and Vegeta, formed save the entire DBS Multiverse from jeopardy. He wasn't even scared by Broly's power, to the point where he just chilled with Bulla all day. The only way to prove it is by comparing the power up diffrences. UI Beerus + Hakai form is a force to be reckoned with, that I think alot of people on this sub unknowingly downplay. Can a guy with a gun kill a bender from avatar? Jiren fp >=< goku ultra instinct >= beerus > jiren supressed >> kaioken 20x goku >>> ssb goku The gaps are way bigger + a weaker fusion so i dont think so. Team 1 with Gogeta has the MVP. At the height of the power weve seen them have on screen (so that's Gogeta Blue when he fought Broly) (edited by administrators) Gogeta Autonomous Ultra Instinct (ability) Autonomous Ultra Instinct Dragon Ball Super: Broly. It makes no difference when going up against Jiren now. ... TC always insists SSB Fusions are weaker as a whole in the franchise and REREAD the title. If Goku and Jiren manage to win before that team 2 takes it. It was confirmed that Ultra Instinct Goku is stronger than the Gods of Destruction including Beerus Wrong. while UI‘s boost was huge , it seems ppl are simply to slow to realize how huge the fusion boost was in the movie. Fusion also allowed Goten and trunks to fight way above their individual level that was a significantly bigger boost than any transformation. Until actual statements corroborate that and have actual confirmation as to where they rank it’s all a bit up in the air which is part of mystery about gods they seemed to be going for imo. can earth ( marvel ) survive a a tyranid invasion, 3 minmaxed Skyrim stealth archers vs the sly cooper trilogy. B. Whis has a complete mastery over his ultra instinct. Vegeta got a new powerful transformation that's about equal to Blue Kaioken x20, and he used his most powerful attack against Toppo to take him out, so I wouldn't say he's far below Beerus at all. 1 Can't Defeat: Krillin. Goku and Vegeta are also implied to at least know just how much of a gap is between them and Beerus back in Anime RoF since they both cucked down at the mere thought of facing him and have almost faced sleepy Beerus' unrestrained attacks. However, he saw Jiren's full power, and a huge power up on top of that. Disruptive gimmick accounts will be first warned then removed. @sup3rn0va: the clash only happened because goku could control his ki hitting beerus, not raw power. ryans [–]Jamano-Eridzander 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (0 children). So he does have an actual scale, thinking about it. Can the US Military replace Santa Claus for one Christmas? Team 2 still wins. Posts must be some form of battle, competition, or challenge or they are considered off-topic/META and should go in our weekly off-topic discussion posts. Yes because arm wrestles are a lot different than an actual fight and when Beerus refuted it was actually a lot calmer than how he’d react if it wasn’t true. [–]SSG_Goten 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children). And even though Gogeta Blue can give Jiren a legit challenge in his base form, he gets completely outclassed against LB. That should say just how good Jiren's reputation is. MUI Goku vs Gogeta. Even Beerus can’t get Ultra Instinct correctly. (Christmas). Do Goku or Jiren have a counter to Hakai? "Gogeta!" [–]armchair_science 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (1 child). We have MUI Goku>Jiren>Belmod>Beerus 100%>>>>>The amount of Beerus's power Goku saw = or < Broly, who immediately pushed Gogeta to Blue once he went LJSS, so MUI Goku >>>>> SSB Gogeta. "Ultra Instinct Goku is … and join one of thousands of communities. If you ask us how to do it, we'll know you didn't read this. No one expects you to be a genius when it comes to every aspect of every character. They don't individually scale to their combined power output unless you mean Beerus's power is equal to Beerus's and … ssj gogeta was already >> ssb goku and vegeta. Instead of the GoD battle royale, the anime had an exhibition match between the two weakest universes, U7 and U9 (the one with the dog trio). After all Beerus needs to be more powerful Gogeta for Gogeta to be unable to resist his hakai. Being able to destroy 2 universes in one shot is literally the requirement of being 2-C. We were given literal, direct statements to it. MUI runs out quite fast. Poll Gogeta and Beerus vs MUI Goku and LB Jiren (59 votes) Team 1 68% . Even in the Broly Movie, Beerus was on Earth, just chillin'. I don’t remember seeing that in the movie (though it’s been a while). UI boost is also huge but not as big as from ssj to ssb. Weaker characters than them have resisted some form of Hakai. And it pissed me off that they didn't have their unique stuff. He GODSTOMPED a beerus/mui goku level character while suppressed. Honestly, there's no reason not to believe him entirely, he was talking seriously about the matter. Overly broad, vague or opinion-reliant posts. Be nice. Then Goku is pretty much dead. Use your best judgment. @alextheboss: I don't agree with Broly being stronger than LB Jiren, but yeah he's atleast in the same tier. UI Goku and Jiren should be above Beerus as of now due to current statements, but Borly was hyped to be stronger than Jiren in promotional material, and he has the feats to back him being Jiren tier up, and Gogeta has the clear advantage over him. I think it's pretty evident at this point that Broly is stronger than Beerus. Anime-wise, he could have been surpassed (well, he has by Jiren and UI Goku but I meant by Goku Blue Kaio-ken x20/Vegeta Blue Evolution) or he could simply be 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 times stronger than he is right now, we simply just don't know. The only thing ultra instinct has over beerus is speed and the auto dodge hax, even then jiren was able to bypass that for a moment due to his strength being absolute and all that shit. Who is stronger? 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